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Question.

Why do you (if you do) argue/debate about religion?
(Be aware, this is about religion and individuals. Not it's effects on society (which I consider a fair topic of discussion (and quite relevant in society today), etc. I mean specifically whether or not person X's beliefs are valid.)

In a debate, one party attempts to convince the other that they're right by the use of facts and eloquent speech (Idealistically. Reality often fails to achieve such goals). The other party then rebuts their points, if they can, and does the same. It's an exchange based on facts. (Consider a debate about a rubbish tip. While a lot of people may have an opinion that it's bad, the fact is that a lot of people have this opinion. You wouldn't say a rubbish tip is 'bad' in the debate, you'd use the fact that a lot of people think so, and therefore in the best interests of society, it would be wise not to make one in the center of an urban area.)

To argue about religion is silly, then, as it's based on a lack of facts entirely. At the end of the day, it requires faith, aka, belief that there either is, or isn't a god. (You don't lack belief, you simply believe that there isn't a god if you're an atheist. To lack belief means that you have no opinion on a subject, as belief by definition means you hold a proposition to be true).

As a hypothetical atheist, you observe nothing, and say that there therefore is no god. Theists say that god is absent (You hear varying degrees. Some say that He is present in everything you do, imperceptibly, while others say otherwise. Lets agree that from a scientific perspective of an educated individual, it's unquantifiable) from physicality anyway (I'll consider miracles and those who believe they are acts of a higher power to be outliers for now), so the knowledge that there is nothing lends itself to both sides. Which side you choose depends on your belief.

Since this is true, as there are no facts that weigh in on either side in a definitive manner, why argue? From my point of view, there's no logical conclusion that can be reached in this way. It tends to pan out that there's "stuff science can't explain" (miracles) and "stuff theists can't explain" (evolution, bible disrepancies, etc, etc) and that's about as far as it goes.
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I have a huge interest in several areas of art.
I love traditional art; leather bound books, steam age stylings and and ornate craftsmanship.
I also like modern and edgy designs, as can be seen by my wallpapers.
Finally, I do appreciate photography, especially careful photography, such as [link] , where you don't know quite how the artist pulled it off, but it is nonetheless amazing, usable as a wallpaper and generally nonoffensive.

I am also highly opinionated on certain issues but generally am content to let things go as they do when the event in question is anything less than a passion of mine.

I am a first year university student who has leanings to electro/house in music, and work in a pet store.

Finally, I prefer to separate my real identity from my virtual presence. That's a purely personal view, but I think a healthy one.

Current Residence: Perth, Western Australia
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Favourite style of art: Steam-Age
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Personal Quote: Any film depicting God as someone other than Morgan Freeman is contradicting my religious beliefs.
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~elrunethe2nd Feb 13, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Whoo 7000 pageviews~!

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Just wanted to drop by and say that I pretty much raped the 'favorite' button when it came to your MSPA stuff. It's a gold mine. Your fractals and pictures are lovely too!
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Hope you don't mind me watching you~
Pchoooooooo~!

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~elrunethe2nd Jan 11, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, no kidding! =P
I'm glad I can deliver, and that people enjoy what I put out. Hopefully I get back into it soon, but I think i'm most productive when the pressure is on.

Anyway, thanks for the watch and the comments!

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~LucasJW Nov 21, 2011  Student Photographer
Happy 6k pageviews.
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~elrunethe2nd Nov 22, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks man!

It crawled there pretty slowly, lol.

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~elrunethe2nd Nov 18, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
They could quite literally air archive footage of the holocaust with added laugh track and slide whistles and it would still be less terrible than this.

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Hello! Happy belated birthday! <3
I was wondering if you could help me. I need an image of the spirograph in Homestuck with a transparent background. I haven't had any luck finding one. ;v; Do you happen to have one?

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~elrunethe2nd Sep 13, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks man!

Sorry for the delay; it only showed me the first part of your message in my messages, so I lingered a little while.
I may have, yes!

For unanimated ones, I just googled it, and got a good approximation and then cut it out and applied a smoothing effect so it wasn't too jagged, but i'll see if I can't rip it directly from the .swf for you.

..and done.
Boom: [link]
It's fairly large. Let me know if it's big enough.

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Thank you so much!! <33 This is perfect!

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~elrunethe2nd Sep 13, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No problem. Glad I could help!

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